One Of My Link Building Assistants Sent Me Backlinks From Spammy Websites or Methods



u/tboxer

Tired of getting ripped off by overseas SEO people

I am looking for Search Engine Optimization (SEO) help and I have hired multiple people off Upwork and its always the same story. They charge between 700-1000 dollars to do "link building" and then at the end of each month they send me some xls file with links on spammy websites.

Is there any way to find the guys on Upwork that do good work?
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Chad
Don't hire people from overseas? I literally won't hire Indians or Pakistanis or outside the USA period. Occasionally they try to hide it (had a Dude who was clearly in like Calcutta telling me he was from Chicago) but it's easy to spot.

And while $1000 seems expensive for one poster, I think that's kind of cheap for link building (or link acquisition to use the PC Term). I've paid up to $5,000 for quality work product. Also depends on the vertical.

I am not the biggest fan of link building but if you are going to do it, do it right and carefully

tboxer ✍️
Thanks for the thoughts. What are you more a fan of – quality content?

Chad
Technical stuff first \- core vitals, pagespeed, mobile performance (not just friendliness but really mobile primariness), and "crawl-ability".

Then content next. Link acquisition last, and if I can at all do it with Public Relations (PR) that's my preference even though it's a much longer haul by relying regular buzz

seo
Hey, I am from India and I feel bad when guys fake themselves out. It literally tarnishes the image of the other freelancers who actually works good and has a certain process.

I am also an SEO freelancer and I don't believe in duping people with fake promises. Sometimes people come to me to do Search Engine Optimization (SEO) but I tell them "let me check how much is the potential to do Search Engine Optimization (SEO) in your niche" if there's no potential then I clearly say sorry but this won't work for you rather making fake promises.

mehranattari
1 relevant link is better than 1000 non-relevant links.

Quality link building costs money. You have to pay the website owner from $10 to $150+ per link, + you have to write a quality post for that blog as well. This is what most of them require.

I can say this because I have done this job for my clients, and I left them because there was less money left for me. Nowadays, I have switched to on-page and content silos to build authority.

I'll advise the same to you too. But if you still want to do link building, try doing it by yourself, or getting Press Release (PR) links from Google news websites. OR hire someone for about $400 to $500 per month to do outreach for you. But you'll need to pay the actual links cost + guest posts writing cost.

locdog
Yeah, this comment is correct. It costs a lot of money to do this correctly. You need to charge your clients $300-$500 for each quality link, meaning vetted site, quality content and the strategy behind the specific page and anchor.

We have an outreach manager, content team and researchers that find sites for us. It costs a lot of money to make it all work properly. If you don't have an infrastructure built out, buy links from NoBS links, at least you can get 3-5 links from them for $700 to $1,000 a month.
TryingToMakeAMil
100% agree. You get what you pay for and link quality/relevancy matters a lot.

If you're serious about taking over your niche with Search Engine Optimization (SEO) you need to invest in it properly.

A good SEO should tell you upfront about the amount and quality of links you will need to build based on what your competitors backlink profile looks like.

These cheap guys will just take your money, build poor links and your results won't be meaningful at all.

klevismiho
You should ask smart questions in a video call. Questions like those:

Which SEO tools do you regularly use? What is your approach to developing an SEO strategy? How do you approach keyword research? What kind of analytics do you perform and what do you look for? How would you go about analysing backlinks from a competitors' website? How would you go about auditing our sites? Have you ever worked with Gray or Black Hat practices? How do you measure SEO success? What is the difference between a good and a great SEO Expert? How do you stay up-to-date on the near-constant search algorithm changes? What are some common SEO mistakes you've seen in other organizations? How do you use content marketing for Search Engine Optimization (SEO)? How do you use social media marketing for SEO? What's your greatest SEO success story? How do you see SEO changing in the near? When looking at dmv-written-test.com, what do you believe could be a major impactful change?

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snopeal
Ask them to tell the strategy beforehand.

For example most of the people just want to grab your money fast. I keep asking what's the strategy and they give me a standard checklist/strategy before they even asked me what are my objectives what are the keyword I want to rank… Why I want to rank. Is it worth to rank.. no they kick start by telling you: buy these 1000 backlinks for a random keyword. Now I do in-house with a team so it's much more cost efficient.

I wouldn't say that Indians SEO guys are bad, but maybe 95% are. That's to say you can find a good SEO manager in any country.( I'm not from India by the way, I just don't think it's fair to say someone is bad just because he lives in country X)

A decent strategy could be:
β€’ find your main objectives
β€’ use Pay Per Click (PPC) to find keywords that actually drive sales (don't waste time on optimizing a keyword if doesn't drive sales. Use Ahrefs to see competition etc… And estimate cost to rank)
β€’ based on above experiment you can tell if a certain keyword if worth investing and you can get some profitability numbers
β€’ in parallel: build high quality content, do onsite SEO (fast, use friendly, mobile – we actually built our own Content Management System (cms) that can get 99 page speed on mobile)
β€’ let them marinate in Google for a bit and do a few backlinks (depending on your budget, but better get few high quality backlinks)
β€’ wait…

Note: all this might not even give results. Nobody can guarantee that it will work: for example what if the competition will buy 10 links a day from Domain Authority (DA) +60? and you only buy one a week… You probably won't rank. Competition might spend 10k on one high quality article, but you can only spend 1k.
bigtakeoff
This is why YOU should do the link building yourself! Or at least someone in your company. If not you'll get idiots who have no talent , no skill , no experience, no knowledge and no resource to get the right links. And if you're paying $700 to $1000 then that's ONLY COVERING the guys' salary. You would need to give him another $700 to $1000 to spend on getting links and then at the end of the month when you get the spread sheet it will be filled with fewer but higher quality links. You need to budget for the SEO person but also for the cost of acquiring the links. Usually can't get (good) links just on a salary alone, Baus.
kumarajite
when you will go for link building process then you need High Quality link building work.

I assume that, your hired employees who are providing low quality link building then I would like to suggest you that you don't need low quality link building you need few links but high quality platform.

you need to do a meeting with them and tell remove all spammy links from the website and build high quality links, you also need to check their Page Authority (PA) & Domain Authority (DA) where they will submit your website through this process you will go in Right platform.
MrNice
What do you expect for that price range? Contact some high quality blogs in your niche and see how much they charge. Probably around $150 per guest post. When you hire a guy and give him no link budget the only thing he can do is get spammy free links.
Iwillbewealthy
If you don't know any SEO, then you have to pay minimum $2000 per month to get it done. If you know Search Engine Optimization (SEO), you can pay the actual workers themselves for the links and save money.

When you buy a bulk job, you're essentially paying a middleman to sub hire other workers to do the work. So the middleman takes about half the money and spends the rest on paying sites and writers.

I used to get guest post lists from sellers and then search on Legiit, Fiverr, seoclerk for those site names and pay a fraction of the cost directly to the writer to do the guest post for me.

Guest post services have gotten wiser with this and now just asterisk the site names and just have the site metrics and prices on there.
CharismaticV
You need not to hire SEO, if the budget is around 700-100 usd. Instead, hire a virtual assistant who can do outreach on your behalf. But it is for sure, you must bear the ost of conten. Real SEO, takes time, money, research and commitment. Not only freelancer but, client must be known to the fact that SEO is creating brand awareness. Even aggressive marketing should be done intelligently, otherwise you will end up losing more money.
growthfoxHQ
Although quality link building is quintessential to getting good traffic on your website/blog, technical on-page SEO should be given equal importance. Link building on a quality website costs hundreds of dollars for each link, and even then you wouldn't be sure if it could drive enough traffic. Instead, you can focus more on the technical and on-page SEO, and compare keywords that drive traffic on websites like Ahrefs and UberSuggest. Also, if you wish to hire an SEO expert for link building, ask them for their strategy, and proceed likewise. If your budget allows you for quality link building, sure go ahead. However, if it doesn't, do not waste your time and resources on spammy and futile websites.

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